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Current » This post published on January 21st 2007 at 1:15 am

Use the Logitech diNovo Edge with Mac OS X

Low profile of the Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard

Earlier this week I took delivery of Logitech’s ultra sexy diNovo Edge keyboard. Unfortunately, the keyboard ships assuming its customers are of the Windows variant with zero support for OS X or Linux users. Surprising? Not at all. I’ll outline the installation process, the Pro’s and Con’s of using the Logitech diNovo Edge keyboard with Mac OS X, and a short video walk-through. You decide if the the “advantages” outweigh the minor “inconveniences” or missing functionality.

Installed - Does style outweigh missing support?

There is no question that the Logitech diNovo Edge has a unique style unmatched by any other keyboard. The diNovo Edge would compliment any desktop or home entertainment setup thanks to its glossy black finish, brushed aluminum palm rests, touch sensitive volume control, integrated mini-trackpad, and super thin profile (aptly named diNovo “Edge”) [Visit the official Logitech product page]. With no official OS X support from Logitech, is the diNovo Edge worth the $200 premium?

Shipped, Logitech includes the following items: diNovo Edge keyboard, USB Bluetooth adapter, charging unit, soft buffing cloth, warranty info, instructions, and CD-ROM (Windows drivers). In order to enjoy the keyboard with Mac OS X, the only items required are the the actual diNovo Edge and charging unit. The rest can be placed back into the box and kicked under the bed.

  • Assuming that the keyboard has had ample time to charge, remove the diNovo Edge from the charging unit and move the power switch to the ‘on’ position. The power icon at the top right corner will have an orange indicator.
  • Flip the keyboard over and press the ‘connect’ button. The Bluetooth indicator on the front will blink in green.
  • Ensure that Bluetooth is enabled in Mac OS X and open System Preferences > Bluetooth > Set Up New Device. Continue through the setup prompts selecting ‘Keyboard’ as the device type.
  • The setup utility will search and recognize the keyboard as “Logitech diNovo Edge”.
  • Keyboard Setup Assistant will notify you that “The keyboard cannot be identified and will not be usable until it is identified.” Pause. Thank Logitech for making this a Windows keyboard. Press ‘Continue’ and follow each step to setup the keyboard as ANSI, ISO, or JIS. Select ‘ANSI’.
  • Once the Setup Assistant receives your settings, the keyboard has completed the pairing process and will pair on restarts.
  • Due to the fact that this is a Windows keyboard, the Windows key will represent the CMD / Apple key. This means that your Option & CMD keys will be swapped. A minor annoyance considering the fact that I have Quicksilver configured to use CMD+Spacebar. Swap these keys, as well as configure a few other Windows defaults, using the open-source DoubleCommand System Preference utility.

Once pairing is complete, your keyboard will function as any other Apple keyboard with the only difference being that the Windows key represents the CMD / Apple key. Although the extra buttons along the left side will fail to function properly, the illuminated trackpad, volume control, and sleep button work. Check the Pro’s & Con’s list for additional feedback.

Note that I am unable to confirm if the following installation tips will result in similar performance under Mac OS X 10.3. All tests were conducted with Mac OS X 10.4. I imagine / hope that additional [official or third-party] support will arrive by the time 10.5 lands.

Pro’s & Con’s of the diNovo Edge with Mac OS X

What’s not so good when using the diNovo Edge with Mac OS X?

  • No official Mac OS X driver support from Logitech means limited functionality (see update below for a workaround)
  • Lack of numeric keypad.
  • Large charging unit (why not offer the option to plug the cable straight into the keyboard?).
  • Placing or removing the keyboard into the charger does not automatically turn the unit off or on.
  • No official driver support. Did I say that already? Hopefully 3rd party vendors step-up.
  • Windows key. Why do keyboard manufacturers assume users want that button?
  • Price. The suggested $200 retail price is on the steep side. Amazon offers $30-off.
  • What happens when dirt gets between the keys?

What’s good about using the diNovo Edge with Mac OS X?

  • Firm, yet not too firm typing feedback.
  • Wireless Bluetooth connectivity. Un-clutter your desktop workspace by going wireless.
  • On-touch Bluetooth pairing button.
  • Razor thin profile. You can finally say “My keyboard is thinner than a cellphone”. My BlackBerry is jealous.
  • Great battery life. No surprise as the MX Revolution offers similar wireless usage performance.
  • Mac OS X supports the integrated trackpad - tweak settings using System Preferences.
  • Mac OS X supports the illuminated volume control.
  • Extremely light and quality workmanship / materials. No twisting or bending.

Weighed the Pro’s & Con’s? With 3rd party developers picking up the slack with other Logitech devices like the MX Revolution (SteerMouse), additional support for the diNovo Edge may be just around the corner.

Images do not do this keyboard justice

A short unedited video walk-through of the Logitech diNovo Edge. Excuse the shaky footage - recorded using a Sony DSC-T10. I acknowledge the error concerning the F12 being the ‘Expose’ key, I meant ‘Dashboard’.

So what are your new impressions of the Logitech diNovo Edge? I’m definitely digging the style, profile, and build quality. No qualms as of yet after a few days of regular use. After swapping the CMD & Option key using DoubleCommand, there is little to complain about. By the way, check out Indigo Clothing. I’m thinking there may be some 531 t-shirts somewhere down the road. [Digg this]

Mapping diNovo Edge buttons with ControllerMate

I realized that much of the functionality of the media keys and extra buttons can be restored by mapping funtions using a shareware utility known as ControllerMate. The diNovo Edge media keys are now configured with the following settings:

  • Sidebar zoom: + zooms screen in, - zooms screen out, % resets screen
  • Search - Opens Spotlight
  • Mail - Opens Gmail
  • Home - Opens User directory
  • Media Controls - Basic Play, Stop, Forward, and Back functionality of iTunes / DVD Player / VLC

Note that configuring each button required a bit of trial and error. Ultimately, diNovo users can restore full fuctionality without Logitech’s help. Let me know if a video tutorial is in order or wanted and I’ll work on getting a screencast thrown together. Apologies for the low volumes during the recording. I am by no means a video buff and used the iSight mic.


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  1. Definitely some nice UX touches with the audible notifications and all, but the charging station does look more than a bit cumbersome.

    Also: The song that is playing during the first half of the walkthrough video; what is it? I know it from some film which I can’t for the life of me remember, and it’s driving me mad!

  2. Dan, something that drove me crazy when I heard it after having not seen the movie for awhile. It’s music by Sigur Ros found via Vanilla Sky.

  3. w00t.

    Your help and a bit of Google-f00 helped me remember I had first heard it while watching “The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou.”

    (Also, I should have this posted on TUAW sometime tomorrow)

  4. Wow, never thought I’d say it but I want one over my Apple Wireless Keyboard, it looks great.

  5. Great review, the keyboard is awesome!

  6. If you’re simply swapping the command and option keys, why not use the Keyboard & Mouse preference pane? If you go in to the Keyboard section and choose Modifier Keys you can swap or disable Caps Lock, Control, Option and Command.

    DoubleCommand looks nice, but might be overkill if you’re only swapping command and option.

  7. Your help and a bit of Google-f00 helped me remember I had first heard it while watching “The Life Aquatic With Steve Zissou.”

    Heh. Reminded me that I need to see The Life Aquatic sometime. I have yet to see that movie. Adding it to the Netflix queue right now.

    DoubleCommand looks nice, but might be overkill if you’re only swapping command and option.

    Definitely overkill for merely swapping keys but it’s so clear and easy to do checking and unchecking options that you would like enabled. Personally, I run a few of the other included rules but keyboard settings is an option.

  8. I really want to get this keyboard… even though I recently payed $250 for my current keyboard. Hum; time to get some money out again.

  9. I ran out and bought this keyboard, along with the MX Revolution mouse. I missed the numpad a lot more than I thought I would. I also found that after I was forced to install Logitech Control Center to take advantage of ANY buttons on the mouse, most functions on the keyboard stopped working and didn’t come back. I’ve been much happier with using the S530 Laser Desktop for Mac from Logitech, despite the absolute, drop-dead sexiness of the DiNovo. So the DiNovo has been moved to be my living room keyboard, running my media center from across the room. It’s actually better suited for that, because it’s designed for PC (which my media center is), it has a built in mouse that functions pretty well (no more using an optical on the couch) and the bluetooth has better response than the RF keyboard I’d been using.

    Great keyboard, and it functions alright with a Mac until you add a fancy-schmancy Logitech mouse to the equation. Believe me though, if you use Photoshop regularly, you’ll miss the numpad enter key every time you set type.

  10. Okay, I watched the video again and now I may have to eat my words. You’ve got a Revolution next to the keyboard. Did you get both working at the same time? If so, did you use LCC, and did you use both of the dongles or were you able to pair some other way? I’m working with a MacBook Pro and didn’t have such luck.

  11. %$@#$@#. Steermouse. Read more carefully.

  12. I actually do have the diNovo Edge and MX Revolution working great together. I use SteerMouse for the MX Revolution. Haven’t ran into any problems yet. Brett, I just stumbled on ControllerMate and have all the buttons mapped and functioning on the diNovo Edge. Full functionality with OS X! (See my post update above.)

  13. Derek, that screencast you mention, any chance if you could make it happen? I’m really excited about this keyboard and it’s features.

  14. OK. Screencast mapping the buttons will get made tomorrow and updated.

  15. I had ControllerMate installed and had all the buttons mapped and working great, until I rebooted and my system didn’t come back up (blue screen of “You Need to Restart Your Computer” death). I safe booted and uninstalled CM and haven’t had the guts to try again. I will try SteerMouse for sure, but I will miss my numpad either way ;-). Thanks for the tip!

  16. You had me worried for a second Brett. I did a quick restart and everything is as it should be (including the remapped buttons). Version 4.1 of ControllerMate.

  17. Yeah, I think it may have been a conflict with LCC or another keyboard driver. You’ve given me the courage to try again ;-). Sorry for the scare…

  18. Unload LCC and use ControllerMate to control both the diNovo and Edge. No more conflicts. The LCC utility was nothing but trouble based on reviews and comments that I found online before purchasing the MX. That’s one of the reasons why it wasn’t loaded on the main computer.

  19. sandifop

    Logitech announced a Mac variant of the di Novo about 3 months ago. Is it vaporware or did you just want to save the $20 bux?

  20. I’m pretty sure what they announced wasn’t a Mac version of the Edge, but rather the previous incarnation of the di Novo.

  21. sandifop

    Nevermind: that release was a diNovo but not “The Edge.” Thanks for the advice.

  22. Well, that is a sick keyboard…

  23. sandlfop, I guess Brett chimed in already but I saw that update for the original diNovo. Made sure that the Edge was not yet supported before making the post. Also, a video clip of how easy it is to use ControllerMate was included above.

  24. That’s a nice keyboard but I like having F14/F15 buttons for brightness control.. but then again you have ACD’s with brightness control buttons.

  25. Those brightness controls for F14/15 on Apple keyboards are useless for anyone running dual+ displays. It will only control the brightness for the main display (with the menu bar).

  26. Vasu Tummala

    I just got the diNovo Edge over the weekend, but I can’t even get as far as you! I’m using a Kensington Bluetooth 2.0 adapter on my G5, which has paired with every bluetooth device i’ve used before. However, when I go to pair my Edge to the G5, the Bluetooth Setup Assisstant sees the keyboard, but when I hit the pair button, it asks me to type in a pass key and press return. When I do that, nothing happens, like it’s not getting the pass key i’m entering. I tried using a clear passkey, and no passkey, but neither work.

    I was able to get it to work using the bundled Logitech Bluetooth adapter, but that brought 2 new issues: 1) The G5 doesn’t see it as a bluetooth device, so I can’t use that adapater to pair to other devices like my mouse and phone, and 2) I can’t get the Edge’s touchpad, or volume buttons to work.

    Any ideas? I didn’t even get to the screen where it asks me what type of keyboard it is (ANSI, ISO, etc)

  27. Jack

    Nice little review. Very sexy keyboard. I personally like the stock Apple Professional keyboard, but to each his own.

    It’s also “OS Ten” (X = Roman numeral). Just one of my pet peeves.

  28. I admit that the stock Apple keyboards offered the two additional USB ports which really helped swapping thumbdrives. Something that I still wish I had access to.

    Vasu, does the Bluetooth icon show any color during your initial pairing attempts. As in, does it turn red before you try and enter your passkey?

  29. Vasu Tummala

    Derek, it keeps flashing green, even after I type in the generated passkey number and press return. I got it to present me with the “keyboard cannot be identified” screen once (i had to wait a while after it found the keyboard before clicking Continue to begin pairing), but it stalled out. I tried to do the same thing again, but that keyboard cannot be identified screen isn’t coming back now. I tried killing Bluetooth preferences, but that didn’t work.

  30. Have you checked to see if the device is listed as unknown in the Bluetooth Devices list under the Bluetooth System Preferences menu item? If it is, remove it and try again.

  31. Vasu Tummala

    It recognizes it as a keyboard, but says it’s not connected. I’ve tried removing the pairing and trying it again, but that doesn’t do it either :(

  32. Have you tried restarting with no other keyboards present and the Edge merely switched to the on position to see if the system tries to detect and pair on it’s own?

  33. If I had $170 to burn it would def. not be going towards a glossy keyboard…..$170. I just don’t get it.

  34. Nice post,
    1 question though:
    Where’d you get that desktop wallpaper in the second video? Pretty chic =)

    joel

  35. Would a 1900 x 1200 resolution version suffice? I created the wall using a small tile graphic.

  36. I’m such a sucker for sexy gadgets, you convinced me. Ordered. :P

  37. Vasu Tummala

    I got my keyboard to pair using my standard Bluetooth dongle, but when i woke up the next day, it was no longer paired and I can’t get it repair withouth a reboot, arg!

  38. Rob

    thanks for those great videos. gonna buy one. looks neat and seems to work great!!

    but as a previous poster I’m also really hooked on your tile-graphics-wallpaper… any chance to get that somewhere or from you?? that’d even greater!!!

    thanks for your work.
    best
    rob

  39. I got my keyboard to pair using my standard Bluetooth dongle, but when i woke up the next day, it was no longer paired and I can’t get it repair withouth a reboot, arg!

    Most likely an issue with your BT dongle. Apparently these keyboards are a little sensitive.

    Rob, and anyone else who is interested, the wallpaper will be made available as a download with a different post.

  40. Vasu Tummala

    Thanks for the tip Derek. I’ll fiddle around a bit more, but will probably give up and get another dongle. I really like the Kensington i have now since it’s Bluetooth 2.0. I wish the D-Link one that apple pimps was 2.0!

  41. It was just a split second in the video I could see it, but I could swear that your dashboard slides in from the left hand side. It looks different than the “fade-in” animation that mines uses. Is this a program that allowed you to modify how the dash fades in? I’d love that link if so.

  42. Vasu Tummala

    Hey Derek, I got a new Bluetooth adapter and now all is well with the Edge on my Mac, woo hoo!

    Just for reference sake, i’m using an MSI BToes, Bluetooth 2.0 adapter. The BToes model uses the same Cambridge Silicon Radio chipset that Apple uses for its bluetooth functionality, which is why I chose that model.

  43. Jordan, the sliding windows is actually a result of using the ’show desktop’ along with a dual display setup. No other apps or utilities were being used. It’s just a weird OS "bug" that initiall surprised me as well.

    Vasu, congrats on finding a BT dongle that worked out.

  44. cyrex

    Hi Derek
    Well the Dinovo Edge is realy nice no quetion.
    But you said in the Vidio you have a Macbook Pro well now I Asking me how do you get a Dual Screen working. The Macbook Pro Intel Duo 2 has only one DVI output.

    Greez Cy

  45. I no longer use the MacBook Pro with the ACD’s. The two ACD’s are hooked-up to a Mac Pro.

  46. cyrex

    Damm ;) Ok well search for a other solution ;)

  47. Oban

    Great article. I looked all over for something like this when I got my keyboard in December. Back then (yes, way back then) I had a Macbook that would keep loosing the connection, especially when it went to sleep. I was running it in clamshell mode on a shelf in my entertainment center, so it was quite a pain to pull the laptop out, crack the top open enough to move the mouse, and navigatge to the bluetooth menu to re-initiate the connection.

    Well, that computer was stolen and the Macbook Pro I replaced it with behaves much nicer with the diNovo. The keyboard looks great in my living room and I get comments on it all the time. I liked it before, even with the constant need to re-pair. I love it now that it keeps the connection much longer.

  48. Ivan

    I have the same problem as Oban had before. I have to connect from my laptop to repair the connection. I’m running an intel macmini with bluetooth integrated and it i running mostly all time. But every now and then the pairing is lost when the OS gets asleep. Any idea will be very appreciated, the keyboard is amazing except for its lack of Mac OS integration

  49. Tesselator

    Controller Mate looks killer!

    I hate that keyboard though…

  50. Tom Holliger

    I purchased it after reading your blog entry and I want to thank you for that. I’m very satisfied with this keyboard and amazingly it just works with my MacBook Pro very well. If I understood right, there are two things that I’d like to add (which seemed to be not so clear in your video on youtube): After it’s paired once, all the described functionality works without any hassle, you can type, navigate, adjust the volume, mute. The arrow key to the left is very handy when scrolling (use the left arrow key to press, the right trackpad to scroll) - I think this is very clever.
    I was using PCs for 20 years now and I missed one key very bad on Macs: The Delete-Key. Here it is on this keyboard and it works too. Indeed its a pity the special functions don’t work without programming, and I would be very greatful if you’d publish a link where one can download the result of your work done with controller-mate (a file, a script?).
    For me as a Mac AND PC user, this is a great product, and you can feel the value of quality work. If just the keys would glow in the dark, it would be absolutely perfect…

    Oh, and one more thing: It took me 3 minutes or less to make it work with my Mac, and over 30 to make it work with my Vista (including editing an ini file with the text editor…)

  51. RB

    WOW! This is one sweet keyboard. Thank you for your blog and the set up instuctions. Just as you mentioned, the touchpad works well, the volume control works, this is the kind of third-party keyboard that Apple should be afraid of. But since it doesn’t have native Mac drivers, this unit will be overlooked by many Mac users. As for me, I can now get rid of my very old MacAlly iWebkey. Thanks again.

  52. hatem

    I’m thinking about buy a Intel Mac Mini for my TV as a media center computer but should I have a regular keyboard to do at least the settings ?? I mean how could I turn the BT on when I don’t have any control over the mac?

  53. I’m thinking about buy a Intel Mac Mini for my TV as a media center computer but should I have a regular keyboard to do at least the settings ?? I mean how could I turn the BT on when I don’t have any control over the mac?

    During the initial setup of the Mac Mini - assuming your Bluetooth keyboard is enabled - OS X will detect that there is no USB keyboard plugged-in and search for any external Bluetooth keyboards. If one is detected, then the OS will run you through the basic Bluetooth keyboard setup in order for you to control your computer.

  54. FrostWing

    Has anyone tried this with a KVM switch? I move back and forth between Macs an PCs all day and I’ve heard some people have problems with bluetooth keyboards and KVMs. (Obviously the dongle is attached to the KVMs USB hub).

  55. Patrick

    Hi there, great review, so great in fact I had to go out a buy one. The key set up video seems to be unavailable, is there anywhere else I can get this video from, I would just like a guide for getting all the keys to work - am I correct in understanding that I need a separate app called controllermate to do this?

    Thanks

  56. Robert

    Under Leopard, it is possible to swap Command and Alt on a per keyboard basis. I also noticed that it was easy to swap the keycaps of the Windows and Alt keys on the Logitech keyboard, giving me the standard Mac key arrangement (i.e. Ctrl - Option - Cmd). The only other thing I need is a command sticker that fits on top of the round Windows logo key (and a couple for insert/print screen/scroll lock).

    The battery life on this keyboard is amazing.

  57. leon coleman

    Question?
    Does the touchpad on the dinovo edge really works like a mouse or is it just some kind of scroller?
    Thanks!!

  58. Does the touchpad on the dinovo edge really works like a mouse or is it just some kind of scroller?

    Yes, the touchpad on the keyboard does work like a normal trackpad - mouse functionality (similar to a laptop).

  59. Tom Holliger

    I actually like the way it works very much, but I must admit it took me two weeks to really get used to it. Today its the fastest scrolling device I have, and yes, it’s a trackpad too.

  60. dave

    Derek, thanks for this article. I brought 2 DiNovo keyboards for 2 of our machines and they have been great.

    The only glitch is after installing OSX Leopard the keyboard bluetooth connection is always lost and each time either computer is turned on we need to turn off bluetooth/turn it back on to resync.

    Hopefully this will be fixed with a Leopard update as from the Apple forums it’s an issue with not only DiNovo but other bluetooth keyboards too.

    Curious if anyone else experienced the same thing?

  61. Tom Holliger

    Dave, no! The contrary is true for me - I move my MacBook back and forth, and whenever I come home the Keyboard works - no pairing, no connecting, no on- and off- switching - I’m surprised myself. I use Leopard as well…

  62. Ivan

    Dave, tjhe same issue is happening to me too but even with Tiger. When I bought the Dinovo keyboard firstly paired during OSX startup (but a couple of times) and suddenly it started to fail.

    I´m using the same workaround as you mentioned, disabling/enabling BT will pair with the keyboard fast and smoothly.

    I took my Mac Mini to an Apple Store and their reply was: it is not a supported keyboard (after paying 50€)

    Digging a little into the web I found some guys which came across to similar scenarios and I´m using a solutoin I found somwhere. These are 2 scripts which will disable and enable BT, and you can use automator or any other way to get them running so you will be able to automate the workaround.

    These are the scripts which are working for me:

    BTOn:
    =====
    property bounceBlueD : “/usr/bin/killall -HUP blued”
    property bluetoothOn : “/usr/bin/defaults write com.apple.Bluetooth \”ControllerPowerState\” 1″

    do shell script bluetoothOn
    do shell script bounceBlueD with administrator privileges

    BTOff:
    =====
    property bounceBlueD : “/usr/bin/killall -HUP blued”
    property bluetoothOff : “/usr/bin/defaults write com.apple.Bluetooth \”ControllerPowerState\” 0″

    do shell script bluetoothOff
    do shell script bounceBlueD with administrator privileges

  63. Jason Houx

    I own two Di Novo Edge units. One is hooked up to my home entertainment (mac mini) and I liked it so much there I purchased one for my MBP. I have an issue though with my MBP that I am curious if anyone else is seeing. When I leave my computer for awhile and the MBP goes to password screen lock mode I can’t get the keyboard to reconnect. I have to turn off the bluetooth service via the bar at the top and then turn it back on, wait 5 seconds then turn the keyboard on and press connect.

    Its kinda annoying but I do it because I like the keyboard so much. Just curious if anyone else out there has the same issue. My Mac Mini doesn’t have this problem at all.

  64. Jason Houx

    ok I should have looked at the bottom two posts - looks like I am having the same problem. HUP’ing the bluetooth process during login would seem to work for me as well. I am using Leopord on both systems but I assume because the mini never goes to screen lock something is not shutting down that is on the MBP. grrr

  65. JkOnTheRun shared something about a quick fix for the Bluetooth issue on MacBook Pro’s here: http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/12/macbook-pro-los.html

  66. Lungkisser

    Derek,

    I recently bought an MX Revolution to use with my new iMac (for one because the nice fragmat mousepads I was given for Christmas weren’t working so well with the included wired optical red-light Mighty Mouse, and for two because I’ve been using a VX Revolution on my Vista notebook for awhile now). I used to use a Logitech mouse on a Mini I owned last year and I knew that LCC caused kernal panics and did crazy things to Tiger … but the new Unibin 2.4.0 is actually working perfectly for me and has let me set up my MX R. with ease.

    Now, I’m considerin picking up the diNovo (maybe for my birthday next month as a gift?) because it’s quite sexy and I’m not a huge fan of the flat aluminum wired thing that came with the iMac so my question to you is this… now that I use 2.4.0 and it doesn’t ’cause my Leopard installation to go bananas, what is going to happen when I try connecting the diNovo to this thing? Does the LCC support it at all or can I still use ControllerMate while using LCC for my MX R.?

    Bonus question: does ControllerMate give 100% of the same features as LCC does for the MX R., i.e. complete controller over the speed at which the Microgear kicks in, etc.?

    tl:dr ver.: does LCC work with the diNovo now at v. 2.4.0 and does ControllerMate give complete control of the MX Revolution?

  67. Last time that I had experimented with both LCC and ControllerMate installed on the same machine while using the MX and diNovo there were conflicts. I have not worked on a desktop for quite some time so I can’t go through and text in Leopard with the latest updates.

    ControllerMate allows you to customize all of the features on the mouse with the exception of the microgear. Unfortunate.

    Currently, my work setup consists of a MacBook Pro, external display, Apple aluminum keyboard, and MX Revolution. I actually prefer SteerMouse for the MX Revolution over ControllerMate. Give it a try if you haven’t already.

  68. Basu

    I have an old mirror door G4 PowerMac which I’ve outfitted with a USB 2.0 PCI card and hub. If I plug in the bluetooth-USB dongle that comes with this keyboard, will I be able to set it up in the same way?

  69. Jesse

    I also have the “lost pairing” issue with the dinovo edge. Sometimes it works fine for even a week or so. It finds the keyboard even after restart, shutdown or sleep. then for what seems like no reason at all it loses its pairing and i have to do the whole turn off/on bluetooth. Usually if i delete the connection and re pair it, it works for a while again. Which is not that big a deal except im using a mac mini and i have to keep a USB mouse always connected just to toggle the bluetooth off/on. I see above a script that will toggle that for me but unfortunately i dont know the first thing about running scripts or using automator. can anyone help? dont those scripts have to be initiated anyhow? for example if my dinovo has lost its connection, i have no mouse or keyboard to even initiate a script, so wouldnt i still have to keep a USB mouse connected?

    thanks anyone.

    ciao

  70. Jason Houx

    Jesse,

    I have a mac mini and don’t have any issues with it. I have another one of these keyboards though i use with my MBP and it i have to do this with all the time. Very strange you have the issue with your mini. Mine is a newer Intel Core 2 duo. I run video to a projector behind a wall i have my home entertainment stuff running through. That one works great. I did by that keyboard almost 8 months ago and wonder if its the keyboard. I might have to swap them to see if that changes anything.

  71. Jesse

    Hmm. Interesting, let me know if that changes anything. FYI my mac mini is a PPC G4 OSX 10.4.10

  72. Kevin

    My partner recently purchased a MacBook Pro and now a “Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser” (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard_mice_combos/devices/164&cl=us,en) and has been experiencing the same issue with the MBP not staying connected with the keyboard when waking from sleep mode (even though it still had the peripherals in the bluetooth settings panel).

    Tonight, after getting passed up to tier two of Apple Care support and staying on hold for a painfully long time (over an hour), I finally got a sequence of reset events that I was to try in order to make the computer behave. But first, make sure that you’ve set the computer to “wake from bluetooth devices” (tier one advice there).

    I haven’t had the time to see if this resolves the issue, but it’s the only advice I received that I didn’t find online already…maybe it will help someone.

    Here goes…

    Second tier of Apple Care support regarding the intermittent behavior around having bluetooth peripheral devices not-connected to the computer when coming out of sleep mode.

    First: Reset the ‘Power Management Unit’ (PMU)
    Apple article: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449

    1. Shut Down your computer
    2. Take out the battery
    3. Press and hold power button for 5 seconds
    4. Re-install the battery
    5. (normally you would reboot here…but wait)

    Next: Reset the ‘Parameter RAM’ (PRAM)
    Resets the video settings, system clock, bluetooth prefs*, etc.
    Apple article: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=2238

    Press and hold the following buttons all at the same time, while turning on the computer power…
    Keep these buttons held until you hear three (3) sets of boot-up-chimes.

    1. (Apple-Command) + (Option-Alt) + P + R + (Power-On Button to Boot up your computer)
    2. Keep holding the buttons until you here the chimes three times (what I was told).
    3. You’re now reset!

    Hope this helps me and anyone else on this quest out of frustration–peace

  73. slaingod

    One question I have for the Mac OS X users of this keyboard out there:

    Does the scrolling work the same way in OS X with the trackpad? Ie. In Windows, I can just start spinning my thumb clockwise (from the right side of the trackpad) and scroll forever, pause then continue, or even reverse directions and scroll up continuously going counterclockwise, all without having to lift my finger.

    Does this work the same on OS X? Or is it just side scrolling or two finger scrolling, etc?

  74. If you place your finger on the small nub near the edge of the trackpad, you can follow the edge with your finger which will scroll your browser window. The same holds true for going in the other direction (opposite scroll direction).

  75. slaingod

    Ok, that almost sounds like what I said. To be specfic:

    * In Windows you don’t need to start ‘on’ the nub, just near it. Strictly speaking, I think the nub is actually non-responsive altogether (not part of the touchpad), so starting near it is good enough.

    * Also in Windows, you don’t need to ‘follow the edge’ of the trackpad, just spin you finger in a circular motion once you’ve started on the right side of the pad. By ‘follow the edge’ do you mean just until you hit the bottom, or indefinitely?

    * You can keep spinning indefinitely, then pause and then continue spinning which will continue scrolling in Windows, no matter where in the trackpad you happen to pause. You can also reverse directions and start scrolling the opposite direction without having to start on the right side of the trackpad. It behaves exactly like one of those old amplifier knobs with a little thumb circle cut into it.

    For me these features make the diNovo Edge Touchpad the best in the business, which is why I am looking for specifics. I tend to use my Edge in a way that lets me use my thumb on the touchpad, so control is very accurate and easy.

    Thanks.

  76. Shady

    Under Leopard, it is possible to swap Command and Alt on a per keyboard basis. I also noticed that it was easy to swap the keycaps of the Windows and Alt keys on the Logitech keyboard, giving me the standard Mac key arrangement (i.e. Ctrl - Option - Cmd). The only other thing I need is a command sticker that fits on top of the round Windows logo key (and a couple for insert/print screen/scroll lock).

    The battery life on this keyboard is amazing.

    Anyone know how to remove a key on the dinovo media keyboard without ruining it? i can’t really see how the mechanism works in there and I’m afraid to break one of the small moving parts. I noticed the person above did it.

  77. Robert

    @Shady: The keys popped right off for me with not too much leverage. Of course I’m not sure that all keyboards are built alike.

  78. Mary

    How do you use Controllermate to make the %zoom key on the left side reset the screen?

  79. Anon

    Hey Gang,

    Has anyone come up with a fix for the pairing issue that Ivan, Derek and friends are facing? I’m in the same boat. Must power off/on the integrated BT on my Intel Core Duo Mac Mini and then browse for the diNovo Edge. If the computer restarts or sleeps, forced to repeat the process.

    Running 10.5.2 fully patched.

    Thanks!

  80. E.T.Cook

    Thanks for some of your suggestions. Based on this post, I actually did a bit more research and found a much better alternative than DoubleCommand called KeyRemap4MacBook. Since I am on a MBP, I had to keep switching the profiles for DoubleCommand because it w