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> <channel><title>Comments on: Rip &#8211; White on top, charcoal black below</title> <atom:link href="http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572</link> <description>A personal site by Derek Punsalan sharing personal interests with technology, WordPress, design, and general geekery.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:07:03 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Jeremy</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5699</link> <dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:36:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5699</guid> <description>Wow. It was to my thinking that he wasn&#039;t too bright, but after reading his claim that the black on the bottom and white on top are the only similarities, I&#039;m more inclined to think he&#039;s straight up simple.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. It was to my thinking that he wasn&#8217;t too bright, but after reading his claim that the black on the bottom and white on top are the only similarities, I&#8217;m more inclined to think he&#8217;s straight up simple.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Derek</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5643</link> <dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5643</guid> <description>Well I hope that at least some credit went to the respective author of that piece.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I hope that at least some credit went to the respective author of that piece.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corey</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5642</link> <dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:29:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5642</guid> <description>hey Derek, I think you might be interested in seeing his new design and its similarity to &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.deviantart.com/view/28328717/?offset=0&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; creation on deviantartman, he sure has no ideas for himself</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Derek, I think you might be interested in seeing his new design and its similarity to <a
href='http://www.deviantart.com/view/28328717/?offset=0' rel="nofollow">this</a> creation on deviantart</p><p>man, he sure has no ideas for himself</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eli</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5601</link> <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:03:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5601</guid> <description>[quote comment=&quot;5599&quot;]I don&#039;t understand why your all crying like little babies. It was a draft. It has never be implemented, nor has it even been coded. The draft ...[/quote]If it was &#039;never implemented&#039; i.e. put on a public-facing site, there would be no &lt;a href=&quot;http://5thirtyone.com/mint/pepper/orderedlist/downloads/download.php?file=http%3A//5thirtyone.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/fallreboot.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;screenshots&lt;/a&gt; to prove it.Nobody here is crying like a little baby. You, in fact are flawed in your thinking. Admit your error, and move on.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="5599"]I don&#8217;t understand why your all crying like little babies. It was a draft. It has never be implemented, nor has it even been coded. The draft &#8230;[/quote]</p><p>If it was &#8216;never implemented&#8217; i.e. put on a public-facing site, there would be no <a
href="http://5thirtyone.com/mint/pepper/orderedlist/downloads/download.php?file=http%3A//5thirtyone.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/fallreboot.jpg" rel="nofollow">screenshots</a> to prove it.</p><p>Nobody here is crying like a little baby. You, in fact are flawed in your thinking. Admit your error, and move on.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Derek</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5600</link> <dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5600</guid> <description>You continually fail to see the error in your design thought process.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You continually fail to see the error in your design thought process.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5599</link> <dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:27:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5599</guid> <description>I don&#039;t understand why your all crying like little babies. It was a draft. It has never be implemented, nor has it even been coded. The draft that 5thirtyone.com as obtained is the first draft. I now am on the 6th. The sixth isn&#039;t even comparable to this site. Drafts 1-3 have things pretty close the same, but 4,5, and 6 are all different in there ways.You all need to just take a deep breath and relax. Your all getting fired up over something that hasn&#039;t even been implemented at all.&quot;You are, in essence, attempting to profit (if not financially, then just     attempting to parade around in the aforementioned facade and gain respect/credibility) from someone elseÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢s work without their permission. And thatÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢s bad.&quot;lol. Sure it is, if it looks the same, but my design only has one, ONE simulatiry, and thats the white on top, and black on bottom. You can&#039;t say I&#039;m &quot;copying&quot; just because of that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why your all crying like little babies. It was a draft. It has never be implemented, nor has it even been coded. The draft that 5thirtyone.com as obtained is the first draft. I now am on the 6th. The sixth isn&#8217;t even comparable to this site. Drafts 1-3 have things pretty close the same, but 4,5, and 6 are all different in there ways.</p><p>You all need to just take a deep breath and relax. Your all getting fired up over something that hasn&#8217;t even been implemented at all.</p><p>&#8220;You are, in essence, attempting to profit (if not financially, then just     attempting to parade around in the aforementioned facade and gain respect/credibility) from someone elseÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢s work without their permission. And thatÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¾Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢s bad.&#8221;</p><p>lol. Sure it is, if it looks the same, but my design only has one, ONE simulatiry, and thats the white on top, and black on bottom. You can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m &#8220;copying&#8221; just because of that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eli</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5581</link> <dc:creator>Eli</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5581</guid> <description>It is obvious to me (and I think everyone else) that actual code was lifted, then modified.[quote comment=&quot;5534&quot;][quote comment=&quot;5532&quot;]Remove my pics from your &quot;working&quot; drafts.[/quote]And is also quite obvious from the screenshots that the design was nearly identical.The action of viewing and dissecting Derek&#039;s proprietary code (I don&#039;t see Creative Commons rights listed, but there IS a Contact form in the footer) is not the issue. However, pasting it anywhere public-facing crosses the line. I&#039;m sure any designer would be flattered to know that someone is examining his/her coding prowess in an attempt to learn and better themselves...but nobody likes to see their effort of much hard labor paraded around like a new trophy girlfriend.You are quick to take credit for the design, and do a bang-up job on the &#039;color commentary&#039; overview of the site:[quote]&quot;Well this is pretty much the design. I really love the contrast of white on top and charcoal black. To the right under &quot;pixellife&quot; I will have the highlight content, downloads, projects, for easy access and noticeability. &quot;Freshness&quot; will hold short clips of just what ever. &quot;Sourapples&quot; is just some of my favorite links. [ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦] The city below was added to give a little more flavor, to use up some space, and to help make a transition to the charcoal bottom.&quot;[/quote]You are, in essence, attempting to profit (if not financially, then just attempting to parade around in the aforementioned facade and gain respect/credibility) from someone else&#039;s work without their permission. And that&#039;s bad.Off the top of my head. I would guess 5ThirtyOne gets a few thousand unique hits each day...I would also guess that at one time or another a good portion have tried to draw some inspiration from Derek&#039;s clean and thorough work. But you don&#039;t see 20 or 30 &#039;copycat sites&#039;, do you?There&#039;s a reason for that - something called PRIDE. My advice: Use a publicly available theme, and pick apart the code as you see fit in your bedroom. When you create something truly yours, show it off!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious to me (and I think everyone else) that actual code was lifted, then modified.</p><p>[quote comment="5534"][quote comment="5532"]Remove my pics from your &#8220;working&#8221; drafts.[/quote]</p><p>And is also quite obvious from the screenshots that the design was nearly identical.</p><p>The action of viewing and dissecting Derek&#8217;s proprietary code (I don&#8217;t see Creative Commons rights listed, but there IS a Contact form in the footer) is not the issue. However, pasting it anywhere public-facing crosses the line. I&#8217;m sure any designer would be flattered to know that someone is examining his/her coding prowess in an attempt to learn and better themselves&#8230;but nobody likes to see their effort of much hard labor paraded around like a new trophy girlfriend.</p><p>You are quick to take credit for the design, and do a bang-up job on the &#8216;color commentary&#8217; overview of the site:</p><p>[quote]&#8220;Well this is pretty much the design. I really love the contrast of white on top and charcoal black. To the right under &#8220;pixellife&#8221; I will have the highlight content, downloads, projects, for easy access and noticeability. &#8220;Freshness&#8221; will hold short clips of just what ever. &#8220;Sourapples&#8221; is just some of my favorite links. [ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¦] The city below was added to give a little more flavor, to use up some space, and to help make a transition to the charcoal bottom.&#8221;[/quote]</p><p>You are, in essence, attempting to profit (if not financially, then just attempting to parade around in the aforementioned facade and gain respect/credibility) from someone else&#8217;s work without their permission. And that&#8217;s bad.</p><p>Off the top of my head. I would guess 5ThirtyOne gets a few thousand unique hits each day&#8230;I would also guess that at one time or another a good portion have tried to draw some inspiration from Derek&#8217;s clean and thorough work. But you don&#8217;t see 20 or 30 &#8216;copycat sites&#8217;, do you?</p><p>There&#8217;s a reason for that &#8211; something called PRIDE. My advice: Use a publicly available theme, and pick apart the code as you see fit in your bedroom. When you create something truly yours, show it off!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Derek</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5534</link> <dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 04:05:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5534</guid> <description>[quote comment=&quot;5532&quot;]Ya, the first draft does look alot like your site. I agree, and I&#039;m not one to steal anything, thats why its a draft, and thats why there are more drafts, and the newer ones are far from your site[/quote]Far from I&#039;m sure. Remove my pics from your &quot;working&quot; drafts.&lt;strike&gt;&lt;em&gt;Comments are closed&lt;/em&gt;. If you feel that you may have something worth adding to the conversation, feel free to use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://5thirtyone.com/colophon#contactform&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;contact form&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/strike&gt; </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="5532"]Ya, the first draft does look alot like your site. I agree, and I&#8217;m not one to steal anything, thats why its a draft, and thats why there are more drafts, and the newer ones are far from your site[/quote]</p><p>Far from I&#8217;m sure. Remove my pics from your &#8220;working&#8221; drafts.</p><p><strike><em>Comments are closed</em>. If you feel that you may have something worth adding to the conversation, feel free to use the <a
href="http://5thirtyone.com/colophon#contactform" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">contact form</a>.</strike></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5532</link> <dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5532</guid> <description>Ya, the first draft does look alot like your site. I agree, and I&#039;m not one to steal anything, thats why its a draft, and thats why there are more drafts, and the newer ones are far from your site. By the way, the PSD is sent.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, the first draft does look alot like your site. I agree, and I&#8217;m not one to steal anything, thats why its a draft, and thats why there are more drafts, and the newer ones are far from your site. By the way, the PSD is sent.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Derek</title><link>http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572/comment-page-2#comment-5531</link> <dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://5thirtyone.com/archives/572#comment-5531</guid> <description>I feel like I&#039;m beating a dead horse. You line up Eric&#039;s work next to mine and great majority are going to say, &quot;wait a minute, that looks just like Derek&#039;s&quot;. From the text formatting and presentation, 3 / 2 column layout, sub archives, etc. Stop denying this. I didn&#039;t say it was criminal, but it sure as hell isn&#039;t original or his own. Deny all you want, but the smallest details are obvious and much too noticeable to ignore.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like I&#8217;m beating a dead horse. You line up Eric&#8217;s work next to mine and great majority are going to say, &#8220;wait a minute, that looks just like Derek&#8217;s&#8221;. From the text formatting and presentation, 3 / 2 column layout, sub archives, etc. Stop denying this. I didn&#8217;t say it was criminal, but it sure as hell isn&#8217;t original or his own. Deny all you want, but the smallest details are obvious and much too noticeable to ignore.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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